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pasknucklehead

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pasknucklehead Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2008
Thu 15-Nov-12 05:21 PM

Hi guys, I am trying to figure out what I don't have set right. I have the sb700 connected to my camera with a sc17chord, I then have my sb600 set off to the side to use as a remote flash. I am thinking correctly in that I am not using the 700 as a commander because I have it hooked up with the chord but I can't get my 600 to go off. I can't figure it out. I set my 700 in manual and then set my 600 in manual, my 700 will fire via the chord, but it doesn't set off the 600. I know I did this before, but I can't rememeber how..Any help, please.

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#1. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 0

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Thu 15-Nov-12 06:55 PM

As far as I know, the SC-17 is functionally the equivalent of a very funny-shaped hot shoe. So if the SB-700 is not set in commander mode, it won't be triggering the remote. If it *IS* in commander mode, I would guess that you have not quite gotten the SB-700 seated properly on the SC-17, or perhaps the SC-17 is not perfectly seated on the shoe. (I do not know how many times I've gotten the flashes only mostly seated, but it's not just once or twice... And usually it's good enough to do most things but not something specific...)

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#2. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 0

jadiniz Registered since 25th Dec 2010
Fri 16-Nov-12 07:15 AM

Two ways to go about this:

1. Old style - set your SB-600 to SU-4 remote mode, and it will fire whenever it sees the SB-700 going off.

2. AWLS style 1 - set the SB-700 to Commander and the SB-600 to Remote. The corded flash does not really know it it's corded or plugged straight into the camera's hot shoe.

3. AWLS style 2 - if your camera's built-in flash has Commander capabilities, ditch the cord, set it up, and assign SB-700 and SB-600 to remote roles on Group A and B, respectively. If you don't want the built-in to contribute to the exposure, dial it's power to "--", and better yet, get the Nikon IR pannel to cover it.

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#3. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 0

Scotty Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Feb 2002
Fri 16-Nov-12 10:20 AM

Surely you have to have the SB700 set to commander mode to set off the SB600. If it is set thus then you can set the SB700 to fire as well as the SB600

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#4. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 0

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Fri 16-Nov-12 03:22 PM

Are all the connections tight?
What mode is the camera set to? SB700? SB600?
Can the sensor of the 600 see the 700's preflash?
Do you have fresh batteries?


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gkaiseril

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#5. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 0

gkaiseril Gold Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Fri 16-Nov-12 06:43 PM

An SC-17 is a rather old cord and it is possible some of the internal wiring could have one or more broken (open) or shorted wires. This can be tested for with an ohm meter. All the wiring is straight through form point to point one to one.

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pasknucklehead

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#6. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 5

pasknucklehead Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2008
Mon 19-Nov-12 01:12 PM

Well, here's the thing. I can indeed set the 700 to commander and set off the 600 BUT I need to have the 700 onboard my d90 to do that. And I can also set both of them up in remote mode and fire them using my pop up flash dialed in at -- and choose my settings in the camera with chanel a and b.
But my thing is this, I want both of them off camera, I don't want to use my pop up flash to fire them because as I'm doing my waterdrops, I fire things off quickly, well maybe not quickly, but constantly one after another. Pretty soon, my camera won't work because my pop up flash is getting hot and I have to wait...Well, I don't like waiting so I am trying to get around that. So I want my chord sc 17 to trigger my 700 and that to fire my 600. I'm not figuring out how to accomplish that....

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#7. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 6

Scotty Silver Member Nikonian since 07th Feb 2002
Mon 19-Nov-12 02:22 PM

Now I don't know what settings you have or the limitations of the SC-17 BUT I will have a go...

Set the SB700 to commander mode and also so it fires (just as you do using the commander mode for the built-in speedlight). Then on the SB700 LCD you should be able to control the SB600 just as you do on the camera body.

Then if the SC-17 is working correctly when you fire the shutter the SB700 should fire and trigger the SB600...

If you have the SB700 set to manual only it will not act as a commander flash. It must be set to commander mode as well.

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#8. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 6

elec164 Silver Member Nikonian since 15th Jan 2009
Mon 19-Nov-12 03:24 PM | edited Mon 19-Nov-12 03:27 PM by elec164

>. So I want my chord sc 17 to trigger my 700
>and that to fire my 600. I'm not figuring out how to
>accomplish that....

As others stated, the SC-17 is a hot shoe extension cord and the SB-700 should work when attached via the cord as if it were on the camera hot shoe.

I have an SC-29 and two SB-800's and just tried doing what you wanted and it worked (well at least on the second try that is). The reason it took two tries is that I got tripped up in that I set the SB-800 attached to the SC-29 as a master, but overlooked the fact that the SB-800 by default is set to Channel 1 whereas the camera is set at Channel 3 by default I believe. So the remote SB-800 on the first try didn't fire (being that I have them set to work with the camera on Channel 3. Once I changed the remote SB-800 to Channel 1, it worked like a charm!!

So if your cord is not allowing the SB-700 to work as a master, perhaps there is a broken wire as George suggests.

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pasknucklehead

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#9. "RE: using sc17 chord" | In response to Reply # 8

pasknucklehead Silver Member Nikonian since 05th Feb 2008
Tue 20-Nov-12 05:25 PM

GOT IT!!! I didn't have the 700 set to master,,,,duh!!!! Thanks guys in replying so quickly, now back to work.

Darlene

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