OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the year
Can I use my SB800 to command an R1 setup for macro photography or do I have to buy the whole R1C1 setup to get the SU800?
I don't do nearly enough flash photography to have a need for the SU800; no studio work whatever.
OK, 2nd stupid question --> If I an control the R1 from the SB800, are there any known issues that I should be aware of?
#1. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 0
Are you using the D2x or the D200 for macro work?
If the D200, then the R1 should be enough (without the SB800) because the built-in would act as commander and the SG-3IR included with the R1 kit would block the visible light from the built-in so that only the IR portion of the built-in would do the "commanding".
If you're using the D2X, I would assume that you could use the SB800 to command the R1, but as I understand it, the SU800 has some extra functionality specific to close range photography that the SB800 does not. I don't know much about this, specifically, because I don't own an SU800, but perhaps someone else here does.
#2. "Thanks Ben. I'm actually using the D2x as the D200 is" | In response to Reply # 1
my wife's camera. She won't use my gear and while she will let me use hers, but I prefer not to.
Anyway, I've got this SB800 with commander mode and would like to take advantage of it if the compatibility is there.
#3. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 1
I don't know that I'd say it has extra functionality as much as it has a more friendly user interface. With a few button taps I can modify the ratio of light between groups A and B, something I'd have to dig in the menus for on the D200 or SB-800.
The SU-800 is just a CLS commander and the SB-R200 are just CLS slaves, the SB-800 can be both. As long as you've got one commander the R1 kit will work, but I'm happy I spent the extra for the R1C1 even with a D200 and SB-800 commander.
I wish my D200 body was a significant portion of my NAS-related expenses...
#6. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 0
I doubt you will miss this feature so I point it out only for completeness.
The SU-800 has a unique Close-up mode that you can't duplicate easily with any other Commander.
The Close-up mode greatly simplifies controlling the power ratios for Groups A and B.
Visit me at My site
#10. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 8
For further research I suggest Speedlight R1C1, R1, SU-800, SB-R200 Instruction Manual.
The SU-800 is also quite light and would allow you to use your SB-800 more easily off-camera when using the SB-R200s.
So it's a question of R1 versus R1C1 knowning that the SU-800 in the R1C1 is usually cheaper than getting one later.
Visit me at My site
#11. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 10
Hi, I just looked at the back o f my SB800 and have it set to control it self and then 3 groups of slaves and it seems to do this well.
I think the SU800 has remote control of the R-200 flashes which is slick.
I have purchased a Wimberley bracket and am now using the SB800 as a slave or as the main flash with an SC17 for close up ( I have been scolded for saying I shoot macro, I shoot close ups)
After a few weeks of testing I feel that for me the R1 was a poor purchase and the SB800 a more versitile flash.
Visit my Nikonians gallery.