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OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the year

zoommb

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zoommb Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2006
Thu 08-Feb-07 12:06 PM

Can I use my SB800 to command an R1 setup for macro photography or do I have to buy the whole R1C1 setup to get the SU800?

I don't do nearly enough flash photography to have a need for the SU800; no studio work whatever.

OK, 2nd stupid question --> If I an control the R1 from the SB800, are there any known issues that I should be aware of?

tia,
Mike

bens0472

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#1. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 0

bens0472 Basic Member
Thu 08-Feb-07 12:17 PM

Are you using the D2x or the D200 for macro work?

If the D200, then the R1 should be enough (without the SB800) because the built-in would act as commander and the SG-3IR included with the R1 kit would block the visible light from the built-in so that only the IR portion of the built-in would do the "commanding".

If you're using the D2X, I would assume that you could use the SB800 to command the R1, but as I understand it, the SU800 has some extra functionality specific to close range photography that the SB800 does not. I don't know much about this, specifically, because I don't own an SU800, but perhaps someone else here does.


Ben

zoommb

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#2. "Thanks Ben. I'm actually using the D2x as the D200 is" | In response to Reply # 1

zoommb Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2006
Thu 08-Feb-07 12:55 PM

my wife's camera. She won't use my gear and while she will let me use hers, but I prefer not to.

Anyway, I've got this SB800 with commander mode and would like to take advantage of it if the compatibility is there.

Thanks again.

jdbower

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#3. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 1

jdbower Awarded for his contributions to the Resources Registered since 12th Jan 2006
Thu 08-Feb-07 01:02 PM

I don't know that I'd say it has extra functionality as much as it has a more friendly user interface. With a few button taps I can modify the ratio of light between groups A and B, something I'd have to dig in the menus for on the D200 or SB-800.

The SU-800 is just a CLS commander and the SB-R200 are just CLS slaves, the SB-800 can be both. As long as you've got one commander the R1 kit will work, but I'm happy I spent the extra for the R1C1 even with a D200 and SB-800 commander.

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zoommb

Wheeling, US
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#4. "Thanks Jeff." | In response to Reply # 3

zoommb Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2006
Thu 08-Feb-07 03:43 PM

I appreciate the information and the opinion.

Thanks again,
Mike

bens0472

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#5. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 3

bens0472 Basic Member
Thu 08-Feb-07 05:02 PM

Ahh...thanks for the clarification, Jeff.

Ben

bclaff

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#6. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 0

bclaff Silver Member Awarded for multiple contributions for the Resources Nikonian since 26th Oct 2004
Thu 08-Feb-07 10:01 PM

Mike,

I doubt you will miss this feature so I point it out only for completeness.
The SU-800 has a unique Close-up mode that you can't duplicate easily with any other Commander.
The Close-up mode greatly simplifies controlling the power ratios for Groups A and B.


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zoommb

Wheeling, US
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#7. "Thanks Bill ---" | In response to Reply # 6

zoommb Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2006
Fri 09-Feb-07 02:00 PM

That's very important and I didn't know it. It may alter my choice which is based on frugality due to the fact that there will be limited use.

Thanks again,
Mike

SamS

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#8. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 0

SamS Registered since 09th Nov 2005
Fri 09-Feb-07 12:02 PM

"OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the year "

-- just asking... is this a challenge?

Sam




Cheers

Sam

zoommb

Wheeling, US
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#9. "No Sam, not a challenge" | In response to Reply # 8

zoommb Silver Member Nikonian since 30th Jun 2006
Fri 09-Feb-07 02:03 PM

:-)
Mike

bclaff

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#10. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 8

bclaff Silver Member Awarded for multiple contributions for the Resources Nikonian since 26th Oct 2004
Fri 09-Feb-07 07:31 PM

Sam,

For further research I suggest Speedlight R1C1, R1, SU-800, SB-R200 Instruction Manual.
The SU-800 is also quite light and would allow you to use your SB-800 more easily off-camera when using the SB-R200s.
So it's a question of R1 versus R1C1 knowning that the SU-800 in the R1C1 is usually cheaper than getting one later.


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tgreenwald

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#11. "RE: OK, Here it is. The SB800 stupid question of the y" | In response to Reply # 10

tgreenwald Silver Member Nikonian since 12th Dec 2005
Sat 10-Feb-07 11:02 PM

Hi, I just looked at the back o f my SB800 and have it set to control it self and then 3 groups of slaves and it seems to do this well.

I think the SU800 has remote control of the R-200 flashes which is slick.

I have purchased a Wimberley bracket and am now using the SB800 as a slave or as the main flash with an SC17 for close up ( I have been scolded for saying I shoot macro, I shoot close ups)

After a few weeks of testing I feel that for me the R1 was a poor purchase and the SB800 a more versitile flash.

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