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D60 for School...should I upgrade?

Valali

CA
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Valali Registered since 27th Jul 2012
Fri 27-Jul-12 07:21 PM | edited Fri 27-Jul-12 07:22 PM by Valali

I own a D60 that I bought in 2009.
I just started a photography program and on the first class my professor (a very nice guy) said 'oh! how nice' in a tone that made me think it was not nice at all. Most of the class is cannon folk and a few other nikons but to them (with higher/newer models) he said stuff like 'oh, that's a GREAT camera!'...Now, I know what matters is the person behind the lens and I know the teacher didn't mean much by it but now I'm thinking if I should upgrade to learn.

For learning purposes, should I upgrade my D60? If so, what would you recommend?

Thanks!

Lolrogge

Ayden, US
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#1. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Lolrogge Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Apr 2012
Fri 27-Jul-12 08:46 PM

My first reaction is, I would not upgrade to satisfy someone else. The D60 is a nice camera. But your situation is more complex than that.

You said a "photography program". I assume this is a diploma or degree program. If so will the D60 meet the needs of the program? As you take more advanced classes, the D60 may not be adequate. I would look at the program requirements to decide on an upgrade.

Laverne

Floridian

Tallahassee, Florida, US
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#2. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Floridian Silver Member Nikonian since 11th Feb 2007
Fri 27-Jul-12 08:47 PM

I see no reason for you to upgrade. The D60 is a very capable camera and will take great photos. For learning purposes, there's nothing you could learn on another camera that you couldn't learn on a D60. If your photos from the D60 don't look great, as you've already said, it won't be the fault of the camera.

Randy

Valali

CA
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#3. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Valali Registered since 27th Jul 2012
Sat 28-Jul-12 02:20 AM

Thanks for the replies!

Is not that I would change it just because someone told me but it got me thinking that it will be necessary sometime in the future...especially for a 'Night and Low Light' class given outdoors at night. My ISO only goes up to 1600.

Lolrogge

Ayden, US
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#4. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 3

Lolrogge Silver Member Nikonian since 13th Apr 2012
Sat 28-Jul-12 03:09 AM | edited Sat 28-Jul-12 03:10 AM by Lolrogge

That was just my first reaction; I didn't think you would.

My D5100 has several ISO boost settings, but they are noisy. Your D60 has an ISO boost to approximately ISO 3200. Your D60 will have more noise at the higher ISO setting.

Laverne

Bluewaterhooker0

Tampa, US
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#5. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Bluewaterhooker0 Registered since 31st Jan 2009
Sat 28-Jul-12 05:01 AM

I got an AS in photography back in the stone age. We may have 'pushed' (increased ASA during processing of film) some film as an assignment, but pretty much shot anything and everything at ASA (not ISO) 100-400 on 35mm, 6x6, and 4x5 formats throughout the 2 year course. There's not a whole lot you can't shoot at any given speed, by just adjusting your shutter and aperture. As mentioned, the higher ASA's get 'grainy', or noisy. I think you will discover that the primary reason for buying an advanced camera these days will be ease of access to the manual controls and adjustments. I have a D40 that makes wonderful photos, I got a few D80's because I primarily shoot manual, and the menu adjustments were driving me nuts.
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mfphoto1

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#6. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

mfphoto1 Registered since 29th Oct 2005
Sat 28-Jul-12 12:55 PM

When I went to school for my Associates Degree half the class dropped out in the first week because the class was more than they expected. We not only learned 35mm, but medium and large format photography also.

Your D60 should be fine. If you do night photography you will probably do more long exposures and flash then high ISO. Even now with my D300 or D800 I very seldom use a high ISO for night photography. I am not saying that I don't do it, just that I don't do it enough to warrant buying another camera just for that.

Lastly some noise in a shot is exceptable or you can use noise reduction either in camera or in post production.

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Valali

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#7. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

Valali Registered since 27th Jul 2012
Sat 28-Jul-12 05:18 PM

Thank you very much for the replies.

There is so much information I didn't realize I didn't know. I haven't stopped reading books, manuals & web! I even dream of camera settings! lol

I was thinking of upgrading in the next 3 months or so...or even as an xmas present for myself. Maybe a used D90 for starts or a new D7000 for longer use.

MEMcD

US
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#8. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 0

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sun 29-Jul-12 05:45 AM

Hi Vala,

The D60 remains a very capable camera body.
As a general rule, "glass" is a much better investment than a camera body.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

MEMcD

US
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#9. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 3

MEMcD Moderator In depth knowledge in various areas Nikonian since 24th Dec 2007
Sun 29-Jul-12 05:59 AM

Hi Vala,

For shooting night scenes of static subjects, using the camera's base ISO and a slow shutter speed ( camera mounted on a solid tripod) is usually the best way to go.
For shooting indoor or outdoor sports under the lights having a camera with high ISO capability will be required at most venues. That said, Fast Glass will be required as well and the optimum body will depend on how good the lighting is at the venue.
There are some venues that are so poorly lit that even with very fast primes (f/1.4 - f/2.8) even shooting with a D3s (current best high ISO performance of any DSLR on the market) can be very challenging.
Good Luck and Enjoy your Nikons!

Best Regards,
Marty

blw

Richmond, US
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#10. "RE: D60 for School...should I upgrade?" | In response to Reply # 3

blw Moderator Awarded for his high level of expertise in various areas Nikonian since 18th Jun 2004
Mon 30-Jul-12 11:49 PM

By far, the best approach to night photography is a tripod and cable release. Even the least capable cameras and lenses can do amazing things with a tripod. For example:

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Clearly this is one of the proverbial "black cat in a coal mine" type of shots. And it even has a human in it, and even so the subject motion isn't too much of a problem. This was shot on a D100 (several years older than your D60, more noise, less advanced processing). With the 18-55 kit lens, but on a tripod.

The equipment matters, but not as much as you'd think given the internet chatter.

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