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Shane84 Silver Member Nikonian since 02nd May 2007Wed 15-Aug-07 11:55 PM
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"Worth investing in APS-C?"


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Hello Nikonians,

I've really starting to get in to the world of dSLR photography over the last few months with my D40 and I'm slowly accumulating the best glass and equipment that I can afford when the need arises. In fact I'm enrolling on some photography and photoshop courses with my local college soon and would love to try and make a living out of some form of photography one day.

I'm wondering though: how wise an investment is it in the long term to invest in AF-S glass and in particular glass for the APS-C sensor? I hate to think that all the money I've invested is much more of a short term thing than I initially thought.

I really like the APS-C system. It gives me great results. But every time I hear talk of FF sensors I worry that I'm investing in expensive glass that will be useless in a few years when I come to upgrade/replace my D40. Is APS-C and the Nikon 1.5x crop factor likely to become a thing of the past eventually?

The same goes for HSM and SWM lenses... so far all three of my lenses are of this type. Have these lenses replaced the old screwdriver lenses? Or is this something else that may not be supported by the D300 and tomorrow's dSLR?

What do you think?

Shane

D300, D40, 3 Zooms, 3 Primes, 1 Flash, a sturdy tripod, a 35mm Praktica BC1 that's older than me and not enough time!

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K1W1 Registered since 19th Nov 2005Thu 16-Aug-07 06:03 AM
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#1. "RE: Worth investing in APS-C?"
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Never is not a word that applies to anything manufactured these days but I suspect it will be a long time before FF sensors are available in consumer level DSLR's if ever.
Look at the last couple of years and see how many lenses Nikon have introduced for APS-C sized sensors. The advantages for manufacturers are that the lenses can be made smaller and lighter therefore the retail cost is less and more lenses get sold. Likewise the bodies are also smaller and lighter which is a plus in the consumer market.
The same applies to HSM / SWM. Nikon have fairly clearly indicated that this is the direction they are going with their recent lens and body (D40/x)releases. A similar thing applies to VR, I believe it's safe to assume that it will be a long time before we see a Nikon DSLR with VR in the body. If they were going to do that it would have happened by now and all the VR lenses in the last few years would never have been released.
Lastly remember that Nikon do not actually make their sensors. The sensors are usually made by Sony I believe so for Nikon to introduce FF DSLR's at the consumer level a lot of other manufacturers who use sensors from the same source would be doing so at the same time so there would be fundimental shift in the entire photographic industry.
I'n not overly worried. The lenses I have work with the body I have. neither will stop working or stop taking good photos just because Nikon do this or that. If FF consumer DSLR's come out I guess If I were to ever upgrade to one it would just be a case of starting from scratch again but I'm not going to run my life on an "if".

  

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simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004Thu 16-Aug-07 06:28 PM
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#2. "RE: Worth investing in APS-C?"
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>I'm slowly accumulating the best glass and equipment that I can
>afford when the need arises.

I'd say that's a perfect approach.

>In fact I'm enrolling on some
>photography and photoshop courses with my local college soon
>and would love to try and make a living out of some form of
>photography one day.

Don't give up the day job just yet - making a living out of a hobby is not easy and you need to remember there are loads of equally talented people out there with DSLRs...

>I'm wondering though: how wise an investment is it in the
>long term to invest in AF-S glass and in particular glass
>for the APS-C sensor? I hate to think that all the money
>I've invested is much more of a short term thing than I
>initially thought.

You can never predict the future. I was delighted with my F70 when I bought it in 1999, yet in 2004 after I got a D70 I suddenly realised it was obsolete and sold it on eBay for £90. Most of the lenses went too (as the focal lengths didn't suit DX sensors). I think you can either cling to your system, or move on as technology moves on. Both have their merits.

>I really like the APS-C system. It gives me great results.
>But every time I hear talk of FF sensors I worry that I'm
>investing in expensive glass that will be useless in a few
>years when I come to upgrade/replace my D40. Is APS-C and
>the Nikon 1.5x crop factor likely to become a thing of the
>past eventually?

Not below D2X level. Consumer cameras like the D40 are made to a price and small chips cost less, as do the lenses. Even if Nikon do FF, it will be for the pro bodies only.

>The same goes for HSM and SWM lenses... so far all three of
>my lenses are of this type. Have these lenses replaced the
>old screwdriver lenses? Or is this something else that may
>not be supported by the D300 and tomorrow's dSLR?

I think AF-S/HSM is here to stay. Not only is it better than screw drive, but it's down to manufacturing cost.

In short I'd say - build your system as you like, but keep one eye on new developments and if you want to jump, sell the old stuff quickly while it still has some value.

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

  

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tom_wade Registered since 15th Jun 2007Fri 17-Aug-07 07:36 AM
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Hope, US
          

Another approach is to ignore autofocus and buy older, used Nikon lenses with, or without, autofocus, but made for the film cameras. You can probably fill a gadget bag with more lenses than you can carry for the price of a couple of newer APS-C zoom lenses.

Don't get me wrong, I like the zooms, and I like the HSM autofocus. I'm hoping that Nikon will come out with a higher end camera with both the screwdriver and HSM focusing systems, so you could use either lens type. My crystal ball is in the shop for overhaul, so I'm not quite sure when this will happen.

Tom

  

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simpo two Registered since 17th Aug 2004Fri 17-Aug-07 08:57 AM
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#4. "RE: Worth investing in APS-C?"
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UK
          

>I'm hoping that Nikon will come out with a
>higher end camera with both the screwdriver and HSM focusing
>systems, so you could use either lens type.

Apsrt from the D40, they all do

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

John
www.blokewithacamera.co.uk

  

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