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M_Jackson

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M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Thu 14-Feb-13 11:20 PM | edited Fri 15-Feb-13 02:54 AM by M_Jackson

Quick question...If you shot a card of RAW + JPG and opened them in View NX2, do the images look essentially the same? I realize there might be differences in bit-depth, but if in-camera settings are being applied to both, it seems they would look very close.

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#1. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 0

nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support Registered since 25th Jul 2004
Fri 15-Feb-13 02:03 PM

They should be either identical or virtually identical. That is the "magic" of CaptureNX2 and the main reason a lot of people use it, with all its various warts .

In fact, by default ViewNX displays a medium quality JPG embedded in the raw file. It does NOT render the image from the raw data.

You can change that behavior by clicking View|Viewer|Display Raw Image on the app menu. Change it back to the default by clicking the Display Preview option.

You may not want to do that because the browsing performance will be significantly degraded as you move from image to image.

Nikon Capture NX2 and View NX2 renders raw images from the camera shooting settings. The rendering should be essentially identical to the JPGs created in camera.

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M_Jackson

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#2. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 1

M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Fri 15-Feb-13 04:22 PM | edited Fri 15-Feb-13 04:25 PM by M_Jackson

Thanks Neil,
I was planning on switching to Raw + Jpg today for at least a few shots so I could compare for myself. I'll still do it, but your response backs up what I was telling a friend a couple of days ago. I like the option of seeing the capture in View NX2, even if I opt to later process through the Adobe software. I will at least have the option of using the better version for a TIF or PSD file. Adobe throws out all in camera adjustments like Active D-Lighting, so I quit shooting that way in the field a while back. Maybe it is a viable option now.

Currently, I am only using ViewNX2 to quickly cull my daily shoots. The intial JPG seems to be good for that process.

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M. Jackson

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M_Jackson

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#3. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 2

M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Fri 15-Feb-13 11:10 PM

I shot a few Raw + Jpg images today. After letting View process the Raw files, they are very similar. The Raw files are have more contrast and clip both ends of the histogram slightly, even though they weren't clipped in the JPG image. I know I can still adjust the clipping with the sliders. Still, without toggling back and forth between pairs of images, I think most people would say they are the same.

Thanks again,
M. Jackson

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#4. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 3

nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support Registered since 25th Jul 2004
Sat 16-Feb-13 05:41 PM

Interesting that the contrast was slightly different.

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M_Jackson

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#5. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 4

M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Sun 17-Feb-13 02:17 PM

Neil,
Please try one or two on your system and let me know if it does the same. I might have a preference set that is causing it to spread the histrogram past both ends slightly.

Thanks,
M. Jackson

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#6. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 5

M_Jackson Silver Member Nikonian since 28th Oct 2005
Sun 17-Feb-13 11:22 PM

I see the problem with the earlier test. I was doing a screen grab and layering them over a JPG layer. The screen grab had some extra blacks and whites around the image, so that skewed the histogram.

After I put a TIF created within ViewNX2 in a layer with the JPG created by the JPG image in camera, the two layers were essentially identical, along with the histogram on each layer.

Thanks Neil for your help,
Mike Jackson

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#7. "RE: RAW and JPG images in View NX2" | In response to Reply # 6

nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support Registered since 25th Jul 2004
Mon 18-Feb-13 09:00 AM

Glad to hear we got all the differences sorted out. I guess, once again, Capture prevails, at least in terms of consistency!

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