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expat

Qawra St Pauls Bay, MT
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expat Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Mar 2010
Sat 21-Jul-12 10:33 AM

Hi all, I would like to improve how quickly images are accessed and opened in Capture NX2 and Photo Mechanic.
What is the next stage without going too silly price wise from my present system where my images are catalogued/stored on standard external USB HDs?
Dont know much about SATA is that the way to go?

Win 7 64 bit

Thanks for any suggestions.

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FrankSRGB

US
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#1. "RE: HDD" | In response to Reply # 0

FrankSRGB Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Aug 2009
Sat 21-Jul-12 01:30 PM

USB is the bottleneck with external. The external disk itself (likely SATA) should be faster than its USB connection. So getting a faster disk for your external drive won't make your USB accessing faster.

Internal should be faster than external, and solid state internal should give you the best performance but with silly pricing.

Check the specs for the hard disk controller inside your computer. It will ultimately determine how fast of a disk you can use internally.

I use a second internal hard disk to store files and sync it with an external USB drive for a backup. Thus all my accesses for editing purposes are from/to an internal disk.

For desktops you can get removable drive bay enclosures that allow you to hot swap an internal hard disk without disassembling your computer case, and it operates at internal disk speeds. Some laptops like my Lenovo ThinkPad also have such a device. They are very convenient.

Ones for desktops come in two parts. One part (the enclosure) is installed into an empty 5-1/4 inch drive bay and connects directly to your hard disk controller. The second part (the drawer) contains a hard disk and slides into it the first. You can usually buy the parts separately, so you can have several hard disks - any one of which you can slide into the enclosure and use just as if it were another internal drive.

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Frank

expat

Qawra St Pauls Bay, MT
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#2. "RE: HDD" | In response to Reply # 1

expat Silver Member Nikonian since 09th Mar 2010
Sat 21-Jul-12 03:07 PM | edited Sat 21-Jul-12 03:10 PM by expat

Thank you Frank just noticed my HP laptop has an eSata connector is that any use?

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barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
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barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006
Sat 21-Jul-12 07:43 PM

>Thank you Frank just noticed my HP laptop has an eSata
>connector is that any use?

Absolutely! eSata (external sata) is almost as fast as your internal sata drive.

Get an esata external drive and your disk access speed should be about three times faster than a good USB2 drive.

Barry
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nrothschild

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#4. "RE: HDD" | In response to Reply # 2

nrothschild Neil is an expert in several areas, including camera support Registered since 25th Jul 2004
Sat 21-Jul-12 08:46 PM

Be very careful buying any multi-disk eSata external drive enclosures for your laptop.

Many multi-disk enclosures require "port multiplier" (PM) support on their eSata connections but laptops (and desktop motherboards) rarely support PM.

I use single disk external eSata enclosures (WD mybooks) on my laptop that has an eSata port. I don't recall any problems with those simple enclosures. They may NOT support more than one volume on the drive but most people don't try to put multiple partitions on single disk externals.

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robsb

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Sat 21-Jul-12 08:50 PM

Aso if your laptop suppos USB3, you can purchase an external 3 TB seagate drive that will also run significantly faster than a USB2 drive. The drives are not expensive, less than $200.

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barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
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#6. "RE: HDD" | In response to Reply # 4

barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006
Sun 22-Jul-12 01:48 AM

>Be very careful buying any multi-disk eSata external drive
>enclosures for your laptop.
>
I agree, single drives are best.

Barry
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barrywesthead

Kleinburg, CA
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#7. "RE: HDD" | In response to Reply # 5

barrywesthead Silver Member Awareded for his continued support of the Nikonians community, freely sharing his expertise, particularly in the areas of digital post processing and printing. Nikonian since 07th Nov 2006
Sun 22-Jul-12 01:51 AM

>Aso if your laptop suppos USB3, you can purchase an external
>3 TB seagate drive that will also run significantly faster
>than a USB2 drive. The drives are not expensive, less than
>$200.

Agreed, USB3 drives I have used are 20-30% faster than eSata. Both are much quicker than USB2.

Barry
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