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Ramd41

Morristown, US
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Ramd41 Silver Member Charter Member
Thu 31-Dec-09 10:24 PM

While I've heard nothing about NX3 coming about, one would hope sometime this year it will be here. Love to hear from others what their wish list is. Here are a couple of things I'd like to see in any new version:

1. Fix the white balance interface. While NX2 is better than any other converter out there in WB conversion for Nikon cameras, if one wants to season to taste, NX2 makes it less than intuitive. Why not just give us sliders more like LR? Right now it requires too many clicks. Pick a WB other than the recorded value, then pick the subcategory, then move the sliders. Just let us go from the recorded value right to the sliders.

2. Histogram. Let us go into the histogram like LR does and click on an area and raise or lower that area of the histogram. Very easy and effective.

3. Interface. NX2 was a big step up from NX, but I still find it cludgy. Given Nik's ability to make plug-ins etc. much more intuitive, they could do far better here. I've worked with NX2 since soon after it came out and I'm still not completely comfortable with it. Maybe its just me, but I have to think they can do better. As just one example, look at Picture Control. Great to have, but after you pick one of the choices and go to the Quick Adjust slider I never feel comfortable understanding exactly what it's doing (it's changing multiple components at a time - i.e. contrast, sharpness, saturation - but how much? Who knows?). Yes, I've read Jason O'Dell's book so I have a better idea, but without constantly going back to it, I really don't remember. The slider adjustment is also very course. It could be benefit from finer adjustments and allowing us to independently adjust saturation, contrast, etc.

4. Build in some tutorials. It would nice to have context sensitive tutorials where if you are having a problem with one of the tools you don't use frequently, you could right (control) click and select an option to go to a quick video tutorial.

5. Speed, speed, speed. Need I say more? This can't seriously be considered a pro application when you really can't batch process like you can in Capture One or LR.

All in all I still use NX2, but with LR3 in beta and the finished product on the horizon, it is still a constant draw just because of its more elegant interface, much faster speed and myriad tools. Still, nothing beats control points for certain tasks, so I'm sticking so far with NX2. But it could be so much better.

What do you want to see in the next version?

Best,
David

nwcs

Knoxville, US
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#1. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 0

nwcs Silver Member Awarded for his in-depth knowledge in various areas, including Landscape and Wildlife Photography Nikonian since 15th Jan 2006
Fri 01-Jan-10 12:27 AM

Here is an earlier thread with our wish lists (all 84 posts). You can see we want a lot from the next version. Whether they provide it....

PK

Charlotte, US
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#2. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 0

PK Registered since 14th Dec 2003
Fri 01-Jan-10 04:51 PM

I see the link to the other thread, and I will look them over. I am renaming all of my files at this time and have been jumping from where these files are being renamed to this forum. I would never try to rename all of these files and folders in NX2. They would crash. So, I am doing this work in CS4 and after four eight hour days of work (and still counting) I have not had one burb out of CS4. If I could get my plug in moved to CS4 I might move to lightroom all together. As it is I am moving in that direction. I have really liked how NX2 has worked, but it isn't a stable program. I have lately asked myself, would I buy a camera from Adobe? Why then would I buy a software program from Nikon? I am still using it, but I am not sure for how long. I didn't think I would have said this a week ago, but after using CS4 to rename all of these files and no problems, it makes me want to move to Adobe. I really need a DAM system, and that is what I an working on and why I am in the process of renaming my library.

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beentherdunit

UK
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#3. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 2

beentherdunit Registered since 30th Dec 2009
Sat 02-Jan-10 07:51 AM

David,

On your WB suggestion - NX2 mimics the in-camera controls and allows you to change the image in the software using those in-camera controls.

Wouldn't having a different set of controls in software be counter-intuitive?

Having a single slider for WB would bring it more into line with other software, but it is not what I would want. I like it's individuality and the way it operates.

BTD

Freewheeler10

Englewood, US
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#4. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 0

Freewheeler10 Registered since 17th Apr 2008
Sat 02-Jan-10 12:58 PM

I like the White Balance the way it is. I appreciate the ability to "twist and
tweak" the WB settings to get exactly what I want.

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mklass

Tacoma, US
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#5. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 4

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Sat 02-Jan-10 02:50 PM

I guess if I wanted NX2 to do things like LR does, I would just use LR. In general, I like the NX2 interface.

Anyway, my choices are:

1.PRINTING: Using NX2 in Vista 64 I can't set the printer and options until after I choose PRINT in the preview window.(except for paper size and orientation). This is a pain if you use more than one printer.

2. CROPPING: Allow crop adjustments after setting it, rather than needing to delete the old crop and set a new one.

3. NOISE: Improve noise reduction. It isn't all that good. Perhaps integrate Dfine or crease a Dfine plug-in?

4. GENERAL: Put index marks (values) on the sliders that don't have them to make it easier to set. For example, the Quick Fix Exposure Compensation slider could have 0.3 0.5 0.7 1.0 etc. Make it possible to "snap" to those values".

5. GENERAL: Allow consistent tabbing between value settings boxes. Again,in the Quick Fix box, for example.

6: SPEED: Speed is good!

7: SUPPORT: Better support system. Leverage Nik ownership interest to get more plug-ins.

Mick
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Ramd41

Morristown, US
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#6. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 5

Ramd41 Silver Member Charter Member
Sat 09-Jan-10 11:40 PM

While I see a couple of people who prefer the NX2's method of WB, and I respect that there's some people would just like one way better than another, I don't think that wanting a more efficient implementation of WB means that one should give up NX2 in favor of LR. There's much to recommend NX2, but as LR becomes more and more sophisticated (e.g. LR3), NX2 will lose more and more devotees if it doesn't become more efficient. And if it loses more practitioners, why would Nik and Nikon keep updating it? And I'm not talking about batch processing. NX2 could, as far as I'm concerned, remain the processor of choice for those of us who want the best conversion from individual NEF images. But whether it is more like LR (nothing wrong with copying something well executed) or follows some other protocol, I just think its not intuitive now and could be better executed.

Regards,
David

karlm

Banyuls sur Mer, FR
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#7. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 0

karlm Basic Member
Mon 04-Jan-10 07:08 PM

Possibility to undock the drop down menus from the Edit List palette so that they can be placed side by side. In that way one could keep them open all the time and do away with the scrolling, which would save time. This would be especially useful when a second monitor is used for the tools and palettes.

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Reilly M

Monrovia, US
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#8. "RE: Wish List for Capture NX3" | In response to Reply # 0

Reilly M Registered since 26th Jul 2008
Tue 05-Jan-10 12:59 AM

A real clone tool?

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lovemy8514

Columbia, US
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lovemy8514 Registered since 05th Oct 2007
Thu 07-Jan-10 05:43 AM

As you said, speed is my number one issue.

Rolling it out simultaneously with a compatible Silver Efex Pro would be nice too.

Allow other third party software developers to develop plug-ins. (Alien Skin, etc)

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